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#1
NFS 2015 [FFB:] Yes (pedals need to be configured as Full Range) [LAN:]Online

I tried testing Forza Horizon 5 but unfortunately the latest update killed vJoy compatibility, the game kept crashing in intro screen with vJoy enabled...I also tested Forza Horizon 4, and although you can map the controls, for some reason i couldn't get any FFB effects - I will try again later.
I also tested Dirt 5, and it seems the device shows up in the controls menu, but the buttons don't get mapped when i edit them...I tried to start a game and the FFB was actually working but I couldn't steer my car. I will try and test with the legit copy, as the version i tried may have been unpatched.


#2
Tested two more games.
F1 2021 [FFB:] Yes if patch registry [LAN:]LAN
F1 2022 [FFB:] Yes if patch registry [LAN:]LAN
#3
Hi @njz3, I read the first page that Windows 10 is supported. Does this include the latest 21H2 version?
#4
Some new games to add to the list after patching the registry to wheel.

Grid Legends [FFB:] Yes if patch registry [LAN:] Online PVP
WRC Series [FFB:] Yes if patch registry [LAN:] Online PVP
V-Rally 4 [FFB:] Yes if patch registry [LAN:] Online PVP
NFS Pro Street [FFB:]  [LAN:] Online Untested

Other games that partially work:
NFS 2015 Brake & Accelerate issues, keeps constantly revving engine when idle. (This is a game bug not compatible with Vjoy)
Driver San Fransisco (Requires ini config to work, works well but cant get accelerator pedal to detect)

After patching the registry to allow device to be seen as steering wheel, the below games FFB doesn't work consistently anymore. Sometimes unplugging the usb or restarting BFF gui fixes the issue. Sometimes not.
Burnout Paradise 2008
Need for Speed:Most Wanted 2012
Split Second

Crazy taxi steam version doesn't detect any of the axis at all now.
Also, i couldnt get crazy taxi 3 to work with the suggested settings. i gave up on that one.

EDIT: has anyone tested F1 2022 yet? I might sign up for EA play for a month to test this title.

#5
Thanks heaps.
Hopefully this method also fixes a couple other games that have similar issues.

Will give It a try on Need for Speed 2015 as well as the mapping behaves just as strange.

Thanks again.
#6
Hi njz3, thanks for answering.
How do you enable combined axis?

also would like to share a new update

Validated FFB for Grid Legends after registry patch.

Other games that work better with .reg patch and don't need to be set as controllers in the options any more - as they are detected as real wheels.
Dirt rally 2.0
Dirt 4
Grid 2019
every F1 game from 2015-2021
Need for Speed hot pursuit 2010 is now full FFB effects.


Games that are not working after .reg patch so far
Crazy Taxi steam cant bind axis
Need for Speed Most Wanted 2012 no FFB

#7
I have tried to play crazy taxi 3 after the .reg change to steering wheel, but the brakes aren't mapping at all.
Does anyone here have a solution for this? It's strange there are a few other games I'm trying to get working with the same mapping issue...
I have tried changing the vjoy configuration and added "rz" in the axis, go back in the game and the brake works but the accelerator doesnt.
Anyone have any idea what it could be?
#8
Hi,

Ok that's something for another project some day.
I ran the "Make_vJoy_RacingWheel.reg" file today...it works sooo much better for all games tested so far...Now even newest Grid legends,all F1 games,dirt rally and more work 100% with great results.

But now I have a problem with all the  teknoparrot games - there is no steering friction when I turn the steering to the left. There is only force when I turn to the right. Is this a bug or did I forget to configure something?


edit: Found the fix for anyone else who might have the same issue.
Go into each game directory load the FFBPluginGUI.exe and enable "AlternativeFFB" in the Force Feedback setup. The force feedback effects should work as expected after this (i think the steering and ffb effects are much nicer after running "Make_vJoy_RacingWheel.reg").
The gas and brake pedals need to be remapped for each game too.
#9
Hi njz3

Yes ,I understand.
It was only a suggestion to allow a additional games to work with this solution.

Would something more useful be like the usbqemu wheel mod for the Pcxs2 emulator? It's essentially a .DLL as a plugin that converts the directinput commands to vendor specific (logitech) commands which allows full proper force feedback with compatible games.

Can something similar to this be integrated into this solution?
Having it able to convert to vendor specific will be very beneficial for it's longevity as that's what all modern game's use for wheel support...of course it's not an easy ask, I just would like to hear if it's even feasible and possible to do?

Let me know if there is anything I can help with. You mentioned you needed a second computer for testing? I may be able to help you.

Thanks

#10
@njz3

Would it be possible to merge this type of functionality from xoutput program into the backforcefeeder app to allow switching profiles for loading an xinput configuration for games that support it? This would be amazing and it would support ALOT more games and emulators and also much much easier through just one app. ^-^


Thanks!
#11
Citation de: njz3 le Jeudi 02 Juin 2022, 15:55:59 PM
ok, I have updated the first post.
Thanks again Snes  ^-

Ok I just found something amazing.
https://github.com/csutorasa/XOutput/releases/tag/3.32
I downloaded this little program to test for directinput to xinput devices to emulate Xbox gamepad...it works!
I tested so far on Mario kart 8 on the cemu emulator and it even works with rumble/FFB. I also tried it on Sonic all stars racing transformed and the FFB also works there too!!!

Just need to set the FFB spring option in backforcefeeder and it's very good!

Now this opens up possibility to work with a wider range of
newer games, previously only supported by gamepads.
Might try some more steam games and Xbox emulators too.

You guys feel free to test with any games you may have already installed or own and report back here what you tried.
#12
@njz3 I have updated my first post with changes and new games and systems. Please update your first post to reflect this change.

Thanks :)
#13
Citation de: njz3 le Dimanche 29 Mai 2022, 13:31:14 PM
Maybe try with GIMX, as it provides a hardware emulation through an arduino with native USB and it gives very good results as far as I know (I guess this is somehow what the USBqemu-wheel does).

I have tried googling this adapter but it seems the websites are all down.
Last night i was playing with the x360ce emulation software trying to get games like sonic racing and need for speed to work, but for some reason it doesn't seem to register in game.
Can someone else test and see if this works for them?https://www.x360ce.com/
Just try it on any windows games that require/support xbox pads.

Thanks!
#14
To clarify for Dirt Rally 2.0

You need to browse to the directory input folder → device → device_defines.xml
from there you need to modify the line
<device id="lib_direct_input" name="lib_direct_input" priority="5" type="unknown" default="true"/>   
then add this inside that line within the brackets    ffb_force= "5"

It can be any number in between 0.5-10, default is 0.5 and my personal setting is 3 alongside my BFF overall strength set to 5.
You can then set your ffb spring effect setting to suit as well.
#15
Citation de: Popo69 le Dimanche 29 Mai 2022, 12:29:40 PM
Ohhhhhhhh
You are very hot boy..
Lot of tks

When you say : dedicated lan server...can you explain?
And online ? Does it mean we can play 2 player but connected to wan and lan?

For the Assetto corsa and Project Cars 1+2 games you need to get the steam versions as they have an additional software that's automatically installed under the "tools" menu in steam. It's essentially an .exe to start a dedicated server that you can run to be able to host a LAN session on your network. You can't use a cracked copy for these games, as the dedicated lan server executable is not included (usually) or missing. Some of these games are just easier to buy from steam, one example is Wreckfest. It took me few hours to get lan working because the crack wasn't compatible with the versions and not working with LAN. I did eventually find a way to get it working, but its just easier to buy the CD key and have the Steam versions as you don't have to spend all this time and effort...
For the online, if you have two games in Steam and connected to online (WAN+LAN) you can host lobby and just invite your second cabinet from your steam friends list and play 2 players hosted private online match. You can also host online match depending on game for more players to join to make it more fun :)
#16
Citation de: njz3 le Dimanche 29 Mai 2022, 11:44:34 AM
Many thanks for the very complete list !
I will add it to the first message.
If you have any tricks to make them work, please let me know.

All the games I have listed work without any tricks or setting up, just in game settings is all that's needed.
There's a lot of other games not listed here that i have tested, for example the need for speed series has a lot of games (older ones) that work, but may need additional x360ce emulation software or the newer ones may need that logitech emulation software to get working properly. Some have FFB effects already sending signals to the wheel, but the controls are glitchy or the steering needs proper sensitivity adjustments as the game thinks its a controller and the steering is too sensitive or not sensitive enough. All these take some time, and my next step is to retry with some games again when i have the time to configure and play around with additional software etc. Theres still a lot of games i want to try make work but needs time to configure.(nfs Heat, Forza series etc)

Edit: I updated the list with more accurate description for some games.