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#50
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 15 Février 2017, 19:44:06 PM
Hi Gc339

I have now tested the ZD02 as in the diagram abowe.
I have 17,18V in my to batterys.



And when the Zener diode is connected it drops to 14,1V
So it must be a 13V Zener.. i do do not seems to find any 14V zener diode on ebay?
#51
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 15 Février 2017, 18:44:20 PM
HI

Thanks for claifying the items.

The D5, the 1SS118 I have orderd some on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182455364389?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT - then i jusy need to wait

Regarding the ZD1, 13Z - if i order some of theese 13V here..  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121782360886?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

If i check a 16Y zener (as referenze) in this catalog it's a 16V zener.. so i think but i am not sure that a 13Z is a 13V?
https://www.sos.sk/pdf/SMD_Catalog.pdf

And if they are the wrong one's would they burn up if it is the wrong component?
#52
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 15 Février 2017, 10:45:02 AM
Hi Gc339

Sorry for the delay but I did not have any spare time this weekend to test the components.
But now i have tested the components and there might be two who is defective

D5 - I have tested the diode in citcut and i get 0000V (in diode mode test - both ways), if i test in conecticvity i get a short.
ZD1 - the same result, if i test in circut i get 0000V (in diode mode test - both ways) if i test in conecticvity i get a short.

If i am correct the D5 and ZD1 is defective, correct? - if so i need to figure out where to get that componets on ebay..

If i look D5 up in your chart it is a S118? what is that? :)
And ZD1 is 13Z, how to find them?

The ZD1 is this the one? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121782360886?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Note..As a diode reference in circut i have also tested D6+D7 also in citcut i get 0,514V when black test lead to black on diode, and OL the other way - so thats reads correct.

All the other tested components reads OK according to your component chart (tested out of circut in china tester)

R25= 10,24k
R23=179,8k
C15= 10,4 uf esr=170ohm
R22=46,5k
R28=4,7
R28=2,4
R26= No component
R24= 220
R21a= 69,9
R21b=68,7
Zd2= Diode uf=719mv C028pf
D6= Black test lead on black stripe on component - 0,514v - reverse leads OL
D7= Black test lead on black stripe on component - 0,514v - reverse leads OL
D5= Short (tested in Circut)
Zd1= Short (tested in circut)
#53
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Vendredi 10 Février 2017, 08:23:06 AM
Hi GC339

No i have not yet tested them all - I will have the components de-soldred to night and test them in my china tester :)
I will let you know the result :)

Kind regards
#54
HI G339

No problem :)

I have de-soldred the D11 also - and messured it too, it reads in tester:  diode Uf=581 mv c=11pf

switched power on at the pcb, and put the test probes at the fan outlet,no 12V present :(

I have double checked the Q1 a K1535 it checks OK in the tester:


Also checked the Q2 a C1627A .. but in the component cart is ony a C1627..no "A" DO I have put in the wrong component..? when i check it:
#55
Hi

Just a quick question, regarding the de soldering..

The D1 diode, thats the bridge rectifier, are you sure that one of them i need to de-solder? if i de-solder one leg, will i not loose the power? i case witch leg?

I have de-soldered the following diodes at tested them in the china tester
D9 Tests as diode uf=575mv c=12pf
D10 Tests as diode uf= 580mv c= 11pf
D3 Tests as diode uf=585mv c=15pf

With the D9,D10 and D3 de solder still no 12V at fan outlet - but i gess that might be due to D1.. but i am not sure witch leg to de solder.
#56
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 08 Février 2017, 22:29:13 PM
HI

I just tested with the other leg of R24 - also 328V present at both the blue circled marked test points.
Then the R24 might be good? it is also brand new :)

I have to try out the de soldering of one leg of D1,D3,D9 and D10. to see if thats give me 12V - then take it from there i guess..

Kind Regards
#57
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 08 Février 2017, 21:21:20 PM
Hi GC339

Just a quick update :D

I have measured between R24 and both of the blue circled test-points.
I have 328V in to the L2 transformer. ^-


I have to go to work early tomorrow,so no more testing tonight...but tomorow i will test R24 and de solder one leg of D1,D3,D9 and D10. to see if thats give me 12V
#58
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 08 Février 2017, 12:19:58 PM
HI

OK, thats funny.. when i looked at the items i had changed.. I looked at R24 and not R4, and where also planning to check R24 :)
But anyway.. ill check it, thanks for the update :)
#59
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Mercredi 08 Février 2017, 10:44:26 AM
HI  :D

Regarding the R4 - i previously have replaced it with a new resistor, so i shroud be OK - but ill de-solder it and test it, just to be sure :)

I'll also try to test test input of the L2 by leg of R4 and one of the blue marked points and let you know what reading i get.

And also try the de-solder one leg of D1,D3,D9 and D10. to see if thats give me 12V

Thanks again :)

#60
Hi GC339

Sorry for the late answer to your post.

I do not know if it helps, I have tried to measure if there is any volt present at the input of the L2 transformer. (I guess that's the input)

I have messured 0V at the two marked test points below at the back at the PCB.




And so far i have tested:
Q1 = Checks OK
Q2 = Checks OK
D4 = Checks OK (0.470 ohm one way and OL other way)
#61
Hi and good evening.. :)

So now finally the new transistors for R1 and R2 arrived.
I have soldered them in, now i got 320 DC Volt  ^- a step in the right direction at last .



BUT still no 12V or 5V present... dammit!  >:D

Have i overlooked something...?
- Must i de-solder the L2 transformer one more time and test it now i have fixed my tester.. or is there some other component.

HELP! :)
#62
Hi

Yes its strange, but i think you explanation is corect  - its so exiting to get the new resistors and mount them  :-)=
I have ordered them in UK this time, so hopefully i get them at the end of next week. ^-

If i had placed an order in china i'll have to wait a month before i get them and the diffrence where that i coud get 15 resistores instad of 5 for the same price - but i only need 2 for this project.

(I have two more powersupplys for the g-loc who also are dead, but i only need this one to work them i have two working for my G-loc)

Kind regards
Per
#63
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Vendredi 27 Janvier 2017, 16:56:12 PM
Hi

Just an update.

Regarding the R1 and R2 resistors - I have de solder them and they are dead! - so you naild it GC339  ^-



I just have ordered 5pcs of 5W 1.2 Ohm at ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162137410017?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=461108678563&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Hopefully they will arrive soon :)
#64
Alimentation, Electricité / Sega G-loc deluxe motor power supply
Vendredi 27 Janvier 2017, 09:07:54 AM
Hi GC339  :D

Thanks for your reply  :-)=

1. The mains voltage coming out of the socket here in Denmark is abaut 230V AC.
I will check the voltage at the "wavy lines" on  bridge rectifier and let you know what that measures.

2. I have not checked the R1 and R2
I will de solder them and measure them and let you know the result

3. I will also try to measure the voltage between the C8 and C9 terminals and let you know.

A huge thanks one more time - now i have some steps to preform and get a bit closer  ^-